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LITHIONICS "NEVERDIE"
BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS (BMS)
VERSION 9 FOR
LITHIONICS LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES

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Version 9 Advanced BMS Released.
Details below.

Click here for External NeverDie
Battery Management Box
Pricing and Model Numbers
(shown down the page...)
For Version 7 and 8 NeverDie BMS and older SOC Gauges - Click here...

Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Dual Channel Battery Management System box (BMS) with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors

Lithionics Battery is a world leader in developing advanced Lithium ion Battery Management Systems (BMS). At the heart of each Lithionics Battery lithium-ion battery system is simply the best, most reliable and most flexible BMS. Its also the world's first and only 12 Volt and 24 Volt BMS to get the coveted UL approvals (UL508, 991 and 1998 Test Standards and Certifications). Lithionics only uses the highest grade components in their Lithium ion Battery Management Systems - including military grade contactors. The main Lithionics BMS "brain" or control module constantly communicates with mini microprocessors that are installed on each individual cell inside the battery to continually report key lithium battery data to the main BMS.

Lithionics battery mini BMS for our NeverDie Battery Management systems
The mini BMS processors constantly communicate with the main BMS using robust, proprietary opto-electric communications.

We brand our BMS as "NeverDie". Whether you are looking at a stand-alone single battery or a whole bank of batteries, we have the best solution for any Lithionics Battery application with advanced NeverDie technology built right in. The Lithium ion Battery Management System is an integral part of a lithium-ion battery system in the sense that it helps to control charging and discharging and can provide what we call a "Low Voltage Cutoff" or LVC that puts the battery into "Sleep Mode" and switches it off when discharged to the safe point (typically 90% discharged but you can also request the cutoff point to be programmed at 70% or 80% depleted) to help prevent accidental overdischarging of the battery(s). At the 90% discharged rate, our 12 Volt batteries have reached 3.0 Volts per cell x 4 cells in a battery means 12 Volts is the cutoff point. When the battery goes into "Sleep Mode", you can access the remaining 10% of energy by pressing the reset button for 1 second but at this point you should really begin recharging the Lithionics lithium-ion battery. In addition, the Advanced Lithionics NeverDie BMS also has what we call a "High Voltage Cutoff" or HVC that helps protect the battery from being overcharged at too high a Voltage. For the 12 Volt Lithionics batteries, the HVC is set at 15.6 Volts so if your charging equipment sends 15.6 Volts or higher, the BMS will switch off the battery to protect it. With both the LVC and HVC cutoffs, if the problem that tripped the BMS disappears, the BMS is designed to "re-latch"and turn power back on with the battery.

The Lithionics Battery NeverDie BMS can be built-in with the battery (most common when you only need 1 battery) or can be provided as an external NeverDie BMS box. The external NeverDie BMS box has several "Field Service Advantages" and is typically used in installations where 2 or more batteries are used as 1 BMS box can serve multiple batteries. In addition, especially for marine applications, the external NeverDie BMS box provides an added layer of lightning protection. Please note that Lithionics is moving away from internal BMS batteries in favour of the more advantageous external NeverDie Battery Management System (BMS) box with the high efficiency EURO DIN connection system. Lithionics has also introduced a lithium-ion battery internal heating system that can tie in with the BMS to automatically keep the batteries above 0 Fahrenheit. More details on this down the page...

NOTE: There is lots of information and resource PDF's on this page so be sure to try and review as much of it as you can. Just remember - "Questions are Good" so if you are unsure about exactly what you need for a Battery Management System, just give us a call at 604-510-0800 or email us at siteinfo@shaw.ca and we'll be happy to answer your questions and explain anything that you need to know.
Latest Lithionics NeverDie Battery Management System Master Catalogue: Click here to view the Lithionics BMS master catalogue

Lithionics battery management systems for lithium ion batteries

NOTE: The ersion 9 Lithionics NeverDie Battery Management System Boxes (BMS) are available in 12 Volts, 24 Volts, 51 Volts, 102 Volts, 153 Volts and higher Voltages. The 48 Volt version 9 BMS box has been discontinued - for 48 Volt battery systems we will use the 51 Volt NeverDie BMS.

The Lithionics BMS is compatible with the popular SilverLeaf RV Control Systems - more info below...

Available NeverDie Lithium-ion Battery Management System (BMS) Products & Models.
List of Version 9 BMS. V7 and V8 BMS page...
All Prices $USD. Contact Us for Shipping/ Freight Costs.

Version 9 Advanced External NeverDie
Master Battery Management System (BMS)
Control Box

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  Lithionics BMS Price:*

12 Volt, 24 Volt and 51 Volts Version
9 NeverDie BMS Box - Standard AP017-HC Series

Includes the Lithionics Bluetooth State of Charge Monitoring System that works with your Smartphone. This is an extra $174.44 USD value at no extra charge. Details below...

NOTE: This BMS Box cannot connect to the ION Gauge

Simplified External NeverDie Box:
12 Volts, 24 Volts and 51 Volts.

300 Amp Continuous Rated. Version 9 AP017 BMS box. Can handle 350 Amps for up to 15 minutes.

NEW: Lithionics "Pre-Charge" Feature Now Included. Pre-charge details below...

Full list of features below...


Note: This uses our small BMS box that measures approx. 11.25" x 22" x 4.06" tall.

One EURO DIN connector included (12" overall length). Custom cable lengths available.

Click on the graphic for the related full PDF:
Click here to view the BMS box spec sheets

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Lithionics Standard Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) with plug and play EURO DIN connectors
Click on the image for a larger graphic

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

lithium batteries spacerUses the 8 Pin AMPSEAL Connector
Click here for a larger pic

Click on the image for a larger pic
or click here for the PDF.

Supported 8 pin Ampseal Features:

  • Alternator Field Control Circuit (FCC)
  • CANBus (Supports RV-C BMS Data & NCC Charger Series)
  • Remote Power Switch

From
$1,902.64 USD
for 12 Volts.

From
$2,038.64 USD for 24 Volts and 51 Volts.

Add $134.64 USD for the 8 Pin AMPSEAL Connector

This is an economical NeverDie Battery Management System box suitable for relatively simple applications where advanced BMS features are not needed.

Lithionics uses Military Grade Contactors and components to make the NeverDie BMS the most durable and dependable on the market.

Multi-battery setup: see "Combiner Boxes" below...

NeverDieRegistered Trademark BMS Features
Standard AP017-HC Series (12V to 51V)
OptoLoopRegistered Trademark Cell Monitoring
YES
MiniBMSRegistered Trademark Cell Balancing
YES
NeverDieRegistered Trademark Reserve (Reset/Power Switch)
YES
Low-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Discharge)
YES
High-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Charge)
YES
Short Circuit Protection
YES
Current Direction Based Temperature Intervention Sensor
YES
UL Approved Fully Redundant Protective Safety Circuits
YES
Military Grade Latching Contactor with Aux Contact Monitoring
YES
Coulomb Based State-of-Charge Meter
YES - Sender Built-in
Programmable NeverDie Reserve and AGSR
NOT AVAILABLE
State of Health Monitoring (Status and Fault Codes)
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - CANBus
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - Bluetooth or Serial Port
Bluetooth Only
BMS Data Telemetry - Ethernet TCP/IP
NOT AVAILABLE
Dual Channel (Independent Charge/ Discharge Channels)
NOT AVAILABLE
Redundant Coil-Driven Contactor Internal Pre-Charge Circuit (Programmable)
NOT AVAILABLE
Ampseal I/O Features
Standard (8-Pin)
Alternator Field Control Circuit (FCC)
YES
CANBus (Supports RV-C BMS Data & NCC Charger Series)
YES
Remote Power Switch
YES
Serial UART BMS Data Telemetry (Alternate: Serial RS232)
NOT AVAILABLE
Automatic Generator Start/Restart (AGSR)
NOT AVAILABLE
External Pre-Charge Circuit Control (Alternate: Heater Power)
NOT AVAILABLE
BMS Auxiliary Power Input (AC Sense)
NOT AVAILABLE
High Voltage Charger Interlock
NOT AVAILABLE
Tri-Color LED Pod (Alternate: LED for Remote Reset Switch)
NOT AVAILABLE
Alarm Circuit.Battery Percent (0-5V Signal)
NOT AVAILABLE

Emergency Stop Input (E-Stop Circuit)

NOT AVAILABLE
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12 Volt to 51 Volt Version
9 NeverDie BMS Box - Standard AP097 Single Channel Series

Includes the Lithionics Bluetooth State of Charge Monitoring System that works with your Smartphone. This is an extra $174.44 USD value at no extra charge. Details below...

NOTE: This BMS can be Dual Channel equipped but you will lose the Bluetooth SOC feature.

Standard AP097 Single Channel External NeverDie Box:
12 Volt, 24 Volt and 51 Volt 325 Amp Continuous Rated.

400 Amps continuous requires 350MCM or 2 x 4/0 cables connected to each of the BMS terminals for heat dissipation. With single 4/0 connection rating is 325 Amps. Version 9 BMS box.

NEW: Lithionics "Pre-Charge" Feature Now Included. Pre-charge details below...

All features shown below...

Notes:
1. This uses our larger AP097 BMS box that measures 13" x 23.74" x 4" tall with EURO Din cables.
2. Enclosure itself measures 11.25" x 7" x 4".
3.
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Click here for a larger pic of the 14 pin Ampseal connector

Click on the image for a larger pic
or click here for the PDF.

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Lithionics Standard Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) rated at 400 Amps with plug and play EURO DIN connectors

One EURO DIN connector included (12" overall length). Custom cable lengths available.

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

Multi-battery setup: see "Combiner Boxes" below...

Click on the graphic for the latest Lithionics Battery Management System PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS master catalogue

Click on the graphic for the Standard BMS User Guide PDF:
Click here to view the BMS box spec sheets

12 Volts From
$1,902.64 USD

24 Volts and 51 Volts From $2,038.64 USD

Add $134.64 USD for the 8 Pin AMPSEAL Connector

This is a more robust NeverDie Battery Management System (BMS) that can support some additional basic options such as FCC, Auto-Generator Start and so on. It cannot be used for the optional Lithionics State of Charge (SOC) monitoring system - for that and other Advanced BMS functions you need the Advanced Series BMS below.

NeverDieRegistered Trademark BMS Features
Standard AP097 Series
(12V to 51V)

iONbus (M12 Connector)

Combines OptoLoop and CANbus RV-C technology into one circular connector. Replaces previous generation OptoLoop and TIS Temperature Sensors.

YES

Bluetooth

Includes App (iOS, Android). Monitoring, Datalogging, Firmware Updates, PIN Security

YES
NeverDieRegistered Trademark Reserve (Reset/Power Switch)
YES

Protection Features:

Reserve, Pack Over and Under Voltage, Cell Over and Under Voltage, Cell Over and Under Temperature, Contactor Over-Temperature, Contactor State, Short Circuit, Over Current, Pre-charge

YES

Optional Features

Dual Channel, RS232 (but removes BT), Ethernet TCP/IP, E-Stop, IONGage

YES
Short Circuit Protection
YES

Easily Integrates With:

NCC CANbus Chargers, IonGage Display, IonGate for Victron Cerbo Support, Wakespeed WS500 Alternator Regulator (available through Pinnacle Innovations/ getlithium.com)

YES
Coulomb Based State-of-Charge Meter
YES - Sender Built-in
State of Health Monitoring (Status and Fault Codes)
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - CANBus
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - Bluetooth or Serial Port
Order Option
BMS Data Telemetry - Ethernet TCP/IP
Optional
Dual Channel (Independent Charge/ Discharge Channels)
YES for separate Charge and Discharge DC busses. You will lose the Bluetooth SOC
Redundant Coil-Driven Contactor Internal Pre-Charge Circuit (Programmable)
YES - All Voltages Supported
Ampseal I/O Features
14-Pin Ampseal Supported Functions
Alternator Field Control Circuit (FCC)
YES
Battery Low LED
YES
Remote Lighted Power Switch
YES
Serial UART BMS Data Telemetry (Alternate: Serial RS232)
YES
Automatic Generator Start/Restart (AGSR)
YES
External Pre-Charge Circuit Control (Alternate: Heater Power)
N/A
BMS Auxiliary Power Input (AC Sense)
YES
High Voltage Charger Interlock
N/A
Tri-Color LED Pod (Alternate: LED for Remote Reset Switch)
N/A
Alarm Circuit. Battery Percent (0-5V Signal)
YES

Emergency Stop Input (E-Stop Circuit)

Optional
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12 Volt, 24 Volt and 51 Volt Version
9 NeverDie BMS Box - Advanced AP037 Single Channel Series

Uses 23 Pin AMPSEAL
Click for a larger BMS image

Lithionics BMS is compatible with the popular SilverLeaf RV Control Systems.
The Silverleaf system is found in many leading brands of RV's including Newmar RV's. If your Silverleaf system is older than September, 2019 then you will likely have to send 2 or 3 components to:
SilverLeaf Electronics Inc.
2490 SW Ferry St.
Albany, OR 97322
(541) 967-8111 or
(888) 741-0259.
There is a nominal fee for SilverLeaf to do these upgrades - be sure to tell them about all the equipment connected to it such as inverter-chargers etc. Typically, the SilverLeaf parts that need the software updates are: TM102, VMS350 and HMS365
.

Advanced Version 9
External NeverDie AP037 Box:

12 Volt and 24 Volts 300 Amp Continuous Rated. 350 Amps up to 15 minutes. Version 9 BMS box.

NEW: Lithionics "Pre-Charge" Feature Now Included. Pre-charge details below...

Note: This uses our larger AP037-HC BMS box that measures 11.5" x 22" x 4.06" tall (22" measure includes the EURO Din connector cables coming straight out).

See details below...

Click for a larger BMS image

Click on the image for a larger pic or click here for the PDF

Click for a larger 23 pin Ampseal Numbering Legend spec sheet
Click on the image to see a larger spec sheet showing the 23 pin Ampseal Numbering Legend.

Click on the graphic for the latest Lithionics Battery Management System PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS spec sheet

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Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) Version 9 with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors

One EURO DIN connector included (12" overall length). Custom cable lengths available.

Click for a larger BMS box image
Sample Photo of a Lithionics Version 8 Advanced BMS box with 23 pin Ampseal

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

Multi-battery setup: see "Combiner Boxes" below...

12 Volt From
$2,173.93 USD

24 Volts and 51 Volts From $2,310.64

Add $159.00 USD for the 23 Pin AMPSEAL Connector

Want the Dual Channel Option? Add $269.00 to the BMS prices above for the Dual Channel BMS Option.

Includes State of Charge Kit Sending Unit Cost (built-in).

Add the 3.77" round SOC gauge from $545.54 USD for fully operational SOC.

IMPORTANT REFERENCE: Advanced BMS User Guide
Click here to view the Lithionics Advanced BMS User Guide PDF

Click on the graphic for the Ampseal 23 PDF with the 5 Volt-UART communication option:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS option PDF

NOTE:

Click on the graphic for the Ampseal 23 PDF with the DB9/ Serial RS232 to USB communication option:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS option PDF

NeverDieRegistered Trademark BMS Features
Advanced AP037 Series
(12V to 51V)
OptoLoopRegistered Trademark Cell Monitoring
YES
MiniBMSRegistered Trademark Cell Balancing
YES
NeverDieRegistered Trademark Reserve (Reset/Power Switch)
YES
Low-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Discharge)
YES
High-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Charge)
YES
Short Circuit Protection
YES
Current Direction Based Temperature Intervention Sensor
YES
UL Approved Fully Redundant Protective Safety Circuits
YES
Military Grade Latching Contactor with Aux Contact Monitoring
YES
Coulomb Based State-of-Charge Meter
YES - Sender Built-in
Programmable NeverDie Reserve and AGSR
YES
State of Health Monitoring (Status and Fault Codes)
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - CANBus
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - Bluetooth or Serial Port
Order Option
BMS Data Telemetry - Ethernet TCP/IP
Optional
Dual Channel (Independent Charge/ Discharge Channels)
NOT AVAILABLE
Redundant Coil-Driven Contactor Internal Pre-Charge Circuit (Programmable)
YES
Internal Pre-Charge Circuit (Programmable)
Optional for 48V to 96V
Ampseal I/O Features
Advanced (23-Pin)
Alternator Field Control Circuit (FCC)
YES
CANBus (Supports RV-C BMS Data & NCC Charger Series)
YES
Remote Power Switch
YES
Serial UART BMS Data Telemetry (Alternate: Serial RS232)
YES
Automatic Generator Start/Restart (AGSR)
YES
External Pre-Charge Circuit Control (Alternate: Heater Power)
YES
BMS Auxiliary Power Input (AC Sense)
YES
High Voltage Charger Interlock
YES
Tri-Color LED Pod (Alternate: LED for Remote Reset Switch)
YES
Alarm Circuit.Battery Percent (0-5V Signal)
YES

Emergency Stop Input (E-Stop Circuit)

YES
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HIGH VOLTAGE BMS:

102 Volt and
153 Volts.

Contact Us for Voltages up to 512 Volts.

Great for Electric Marine Propulsion and other high Voltage applications.

Includes the Lithionics Bluetooth State of Charge Monitoring System that works with your Smartphone. This is an extra $174.44 USD value at no extra charge. Details below...

23 Pin AMPSEAL
Click for a larger BMS image

External NeverDie Box:
400 Amp Continuous Rated. Version 9 Advanced BMS.

This BMS has the upgraded internal contactor that raises its constant Amp loads from 350 Amps constant to 400 Amps peak.

NEW: Lithionics "Pre-Charge" Feature Now Included. Pre-charge details below...

This High Voltage BMS uses the AP036 box that measures 15.5" x 4.34" x 21" overall with EURO Din connector cable.

BMS box alone measures 15.5" x 9.13" x 4.34" thick.

See list of features below...

NOTE: Dual Channel BMS not available for this model.

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Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) Version 9 High Voltage: 102 Volts to 512 Volts DC with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors

One EURO DIN connector included (12" overall length). Custom cable lengths available.

Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) Version 9 High Voltage: 102 Volts to 512 Volts DC with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

Multi-battery setup: see "Combiner Boxes" below...

From
$2,718.64 USD for 102 Volts and From $2,990.60 USD for 153 Volts
with 400 Amp
contactor.

Add $159.00 USD for the 23 Pin AMPSEAL Connector

Includes State of Charge Kit Sending Unit Cost (built-in).

Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors

Click on the graphic for the full PDF BMS spec sheet and features:
Click here to view the High Voltage BMS box spec sheets

NeverDieRegistered Trademark BMS Features
High Voltage Series
(102V to 512V)
OptoLoopRegistered Trademark Cell Monitoring
YES
MiniBMSRegistered Trademark Cell Balancing
YES
NeverDieRegistered Trademark Reserve (Reset/Power Switch)
YES
Low-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Discharge)
YES
High-Voltage Cutoff Protection (Over-Charge)
YES
Short Circuit Protection
YES
Current Direction Based Temperature Intervention Sensor
YES
UL Approved Fully Redundant Protective Safety Circuits
YES
Military Grade Latching Contactor with Aux Contact Monitoring
YES
Coulomb Based State-of-Charge Meter
YES - Sender Built-in
Programmable NeverDie Reserve and AGSR
YES
State of Health Monitoring (Status and Fault Codes)
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - CANBus
YES
BMS Data Telemetry - Bluetooth or Serial Port
Order Option
BMS Data Telemetry - Ethernet TCP/IP
Optional
Dual Channel (Independent Charge/ Discharge Channels)
NOT AVAILABLE
Redundant Coil-Driven Contactor Internal Pre-Charge Circuit (Programmable)
YES
Ampseal I/O Features
Advanced (23-Pin)
Alternator Field Control Circuit (FCC)
YES
CANBus (Supports RV-C BMS Data & NCC Charger Series)
YES
Remote Power Switch
YES
Serial UART BMS Data Telemetry (Alternate: Serial RS232)
YES
Automatic Generator Start/Restart (AGSR)
YES
External Pre-Charge Circuit Control (Alternate: Heater Power)
YES
BMS Auxiliary Power Input (AC Sense)
YES
High Voltage Charger Interlock
YES
Tri-Color LED Pod (Alternate: LED for Remote Reset Switch)
YES
Alarm Circuit.Battery Percent (0-5V Signal)
YES

Emergency Stop Input (E-Stop Circuit)

YES
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Lithionics BMS Pre-Charge Feature:

1. What is a Pre-Charge Feature?
All modern power inverters and motor controllers have a large capacitor bank at their DC input terminals to reduce the ripple current and its associated EMI interference. Input capacitors help to provide smooth power conversion from DC to an AC sine wave and back to DC when charging the battery. When initially connecting a battery to a capacitive input, there is an inrush of current as the input capacitance is charged up to the battery voltage. With large batteries (with a low source resistance) and powerful loads (with large capacitors across the input), the inrush current can easily peak 1,000 Amps or more (as much as 2,600 Amps). A pre-charge circuit limits that inrush current, without limiting the operating current.
Read the full PDF...

2. Why do I need a Pre-Charge Feature?
When connecting a Lead Acid battery to a DC input of the inverter, there is a nasty spark, which can tack weld the battery lug to the input terminal. This spark is caused by the inrush current to charge the input capacitors. Lithionics Battery has an intelligent BMS, which includes a contactor allowing the BMS to turn the battery power on/off when needed. Without the pre-charge feature that initial contact spark would happen inside the contactor and could tack weld it, preventing its normal operations and damaging the BMS and battery modules. The pre-charge feature eliminates this initial inrush of current and eliminates the nasty spark.
Read more in the full PDF...

Lithionics Pre-Charge feature for large inverter systems

Now included at no extra charge in all Version 9 Lithionics NeverDie BMS boxes. Custom options available.

Click on the graphic for the Lithionics Battery Management System Pre-Charge Feature PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS Pre-Charge feature PDF

 

Click here to view the Lithionics Battery Support/ Resources QR code

Click on the logo above for the
Lithionics Support QR Code/ Link

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- click on the images for a larger image:
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23 pin AMPseal
Dongle Port
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Lithionics NeverDie 400 Amp 24 Volt Advanced Version 8 BMS box. Note: Power button is on the right side and illuminates when On.
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What can I do if I need more than 400 Amps of current on a constant basis?

Example: Your RV or yacht has a 5,000 Watt or 6,000 Watt inverter-charger or twin 3,000 Watt inverter-chargers. In this case those total Watt readings at 120 Volts AC work out to about 416 Amps and 500 Amps at 12 Volts DC. We can look at the following option to provide a higher Amperage NeverDie BMS throughput:

  • We can offer twin or two external Neverdie BMS boxes rated at 350 Amps each that would be wired to the battery system in parallel. As part of this, we also have to review that the lithium-ion battery modules can handle the combined output draw of 400+ Amps and limit the upper limit of the current we draw to match the "C" rate discharge capabilities of the batteries (as well as the "C" rate for charging Amps).
  • There are some important things to consider such as limiting the maximum Amp draw of the system with an ANL or Class T fuse. We can also look at islanded independent installations that may be appropriate for load sharing in some situations so please feel free to consult with Pinnacle Innovations about your high Amp projects.
  • IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.
lithium batteries spacerLithionics BMS "Combiner" Boxes:
In some multi-battery systems connected to a single EURO DIN equipped
BMS box it may be necessary to add an "intermediary combiner box" that
combines either 2 or 4 EURO DIN battery connections in an electric box with
a single EURO DIN output cable that connects to the BMS box. "Combiner boxes"lithium batteries spacerare available as shown below (some applications may be able to use the Lithionics "Y-Harness" or "Series Harness" - see down the page a bit):
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Combiner box with 2 EURO DIN input cable sockets (from batteries) and one EURO DIN output cable socket to EURO DIN enabled BMS box.

Part Numbers:
76-DIN2P-02-12V
76-DIN2P-02-24V
76-DIN2P-02-51V

2 Position Combiner Box Measures 11" x 5" x 5.475" tall.

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Combiner box with 3 EURO DIN input cable sockets (from batteries) and one EURO DIN output cable socket to EURO DIN enabled BMS box.

Part Numbers:
76-DIN3P-02-12V
76-DIN3P-02-24V
76-DIN3P-02-51V

 

 

$1,358.64 USD
(Price is for all Voltage Systems)

 

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Combiner box with 4 EURO DIN input cable sockets (from batteries) and one EURO DIN output cable socket to EURO DIN enabled BMS box.

Part Numbers:
76-DIN4P-02-12V
76-DIN4P-02-24V
76-DIN4P-02-51V

4 Position Combiner Box Measures 14" x 5" x 5.475" tall.

$1,630.64 USD
(Price is for all Voltage Systems)

"Dummy" EURO DIN jumper plugs are $189.00 USD. For use if you have just 3 battery modules to connect.

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Combiner box with 6 EURO DIN input cable sockets (from batteries) and one EURO DIN output cable socket to EURO DIN enabled BMS box.

Part Numbers:
76-DIN6P-02-12V
76-DIN6P-02-24V
76-DIN6P-02-51V

6 Position Combiner Box Measures 18.18" x 5" x 5.475" tall.

$2,038.64 USD
(Price is for all Voltage Systems)

"Dummy" EURO DIN jumper plugs are $189.00 USD. For use if you have just 5 battery modules to connect.

lithium batteries spacerCombiner Box Images - click on them for a larger image:
Click here for a larger image of the Lithionics BMS and lithium-ion battery combiner box
A Lithionics 24 Volt 400 Amp BMS box with 4 battery Combiner Box.
Click here for a larger image of the Lithionics BMS and lithium-ion battery combiner box
This graphic shows an easy way to "lock in" the EURO DIN connector cables so that they do not accidentally unplug.
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LITHIONICS NEVERDIE BMS INSTALLATION EXAMPLES:
Click for a larger Lithionics lithium-ion RV battery installation photo
A Lithionics 24 Volt 400 Amp BMS box (on left behind plexi-glas) with 4 battery Combiner Box installed on a Prevost Tour Bus.
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May 2019: 56' Catamaran Lithium-ion Battery System.

Shown here is the "test mockup" of this client's 12 Volt, 1,200 Amp hour Lithionics lithium-ion battery system rated at 400 Amps constant current. As you can see in the photos our client did a really nice job of fabricating a special electronics board to mount the external BMS box, 4 port Combiner box, Victron MPPT solar charge controllers, Class T fuses and bus bars. For this application, we supplied three of the Lithionics Battery Standard Series 12 Volt/ 400 Amp hour lithium-ion batteries in the special 5D battery case.

In addition, this client opted for the "Dual Channel BMS" which separates the charge and discharge functions on the lithium-ion battery system. Also included on this project was a DC Power Solutions upgraded high output engine alternator with external Remote Rectifier which communicates with the Lithionics BMS through our FCC option (Field Circuit Control).

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Lithionics Battery 12 Volt battery system and external NeverDie Battery Management System installed on a 56 foot catamaran

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This whole setup fits tightly inside an existing cabinet on the vessel so it was important to do a dry fit at our workshop before the client went to his vessel on Vancouver Island.

In addition, we supplied a Mark Grasser DC Power Solutions high output 12 Volt alternator upgrade with the R210a Remote Rectifier. Click here for a great article on a Mark Grasser DC Power Solutions high output alternator upgrade.

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Lithionics Battery "Y HARNESS" & "SERIES CONNECTION MODULE WIRING HARNESSES"
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Description:
Lithionics
BMS Part
Price:*

Lithionics Battery Y-Harness
Please Contact Us to see if we can offer this more economical option for Parallel Connecting two Lithionics Battery Modules to one BMS box.

Lithionics Battery special EURO DIN Connector Y Harness for parallel connecting two Lithionics batteries to one BMS box.

Click here to view the Lithionics Y-harness document
Click on the PDF logo above for the Y-harness document.

Click on the image above for a lrger spec sheet of the Y-Harness used in connecting two Lithionics 12 Volt 600 Amp hour lithium-ion batteries to a single external 12 Volt NeverDie BMS box.

The standard configuration of the Y-Harness uses 2/0 size power and ground cables that are 2 or 3 feet long when the Y-Harness is laid out in a straight line including the matching EURO DIN Cable Connectors. We can make the sets of cables longer - add $35.00 USD per foot over 3 feet.

The advantages of the Y-Harness versus a 2 battery Combiner box include lower parts cost and in some cases can take up less space and make installation easier.

$678.64 USD
Part Number 75-614-36. This is for the standard 3 foot length Y-Harness. Add $35.00 USD for each additional foot if you need longer cables.

For both the Y and Series harnesses it is best to consult with us to ensure that all your performance requirements can be safely met.

Please Contact Us for what you need

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Lithionics Battery Series Harness
Many of the Lithionics lithium-ion battery modules (that require and external BMS box) can be wired in series to obtain a higher Voltage battery pack. We can provide the special EURO DIN connector series harness with the length of cables that you need and the number of connectors that you need. Generally we use the big 4/0 power cable. You can see an example of a Series Harness in the pic below that connects two 24 Volt batteries in series to a 51 Volt BMS box.

Lithionics Battery GTX 275 amp hour 51 Volt DC lithium-ion battery system with Battery Management System box.

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Example: A 3 battery series harness with 3 feet of cabling is $802.40 USD.

Please Contact Us for what you need

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Description:
  *Lithionics
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NOTE: DUAL CHANNEL ONLY AVAILABLE FOR EXTERNAL BMS BOXES.

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300 Constant Amp or 350 Amp(15 minutes) 12 Volt Dual Channel Battery Management System.

Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...

Note: 12 Volt model shown above
Dimensions of this 12 Volt Lithionics Dual Channel NeverDie
Battery Management System Box is 13" long x 9" wide x 4" tall and weighs approx. 7 pounds.

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.


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We recommend the Dual Channel BMS for applications that use solar or wind power (their charge controllers can sometimes allow Voltage spikes that can trip the HVC) so that if a Voltage spike is detected, only the charging path will shut off and you can still discharge the battery. If the Voltage spike disappears, the charge path should automatically relatch after 60 seconds.

NOTE: When connecting an Inverter-Charger with a single set of DC power cables to the Dual Channel BMS, we generally recommend that you connect its positive DC power cable to the Dual Cahnnel BMS box's "LOAD" terminal. This applies to reliable inverter-chargers like Victron, Xantrex and some other good quality brands.

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$2,442.93 USD
for 12 Volt

New Lower Price now includes the BMS box

Click on the graphic for the related full PDF:
Click here to view the Dual Channel BMS box spec sheet

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Lithionics also has a feature for our Dual Channel NeverDie BMS for Solar Systems:

As a part of the High Voltage Cutoff, the BMS can sense when the solar panels are not outputting any power (when it is night) and prevent the MPPT solar charge controller from draining power from your Lithionics lithium-ion battery. The Dual Channel BMS fits into a single box (as shown below with integrated State of Charge Monitor sender built-in and accessory SOC gauge).

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24 Volt Dual
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Option

NOTE: DUAL CHANNEL ONLY AVAILABLE FOR EXTERNAL BMS BOXES.

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

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300 Constant Amp or 350 Amp(15 minutes) 24 Volt Dual Channel Battery Management System.

Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...

Note: 12 Volt model shown above
Dimensions of this 12 Volt Lithionics Dual Channel NeverDie
Battery Management System Box is 13" long x 9" wide x 4" tall and weighs approx. 7 pounds.

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Dual Channel BMS is only Available for 12 and 24 Volt Applications
Call
604-510-0800

NOTE: When connecting an Inverter-Charger with a single set of DC power cables to the Dual Channel BMS, we generally recommend that you connect its positive DC power cable to the Dual Cahnnel BMS box's "LOAD" terminal. This applies to reliable inverter-chargers like Victron, Xantrex and some other good quality brands.

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$2,442.93 USD
for 24 Volt

New Lower Price now includes the BMS box

Click on the graphic for the related full PDF:
Click here to view the Dual Channel BMS box spec sheet

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NEW!
51 Volt Dual
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Option

NOTE: DUAL CHANNEL ONLY AVAILABLE FOR EXTERNAL BMS BOXES.

IMPORTANT: Please discuss with us if you have a high current/ Amp load system. For these projects make sure that the power cables from the BMS box to fuse/ bus bars is at least 2 feet long.

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300 Constant Amp or 350 Amp(15 minutes) 51 Volt Dual Channel Battery Management System.

Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...

Note: 12 Volt model shown above
Dimensions of this 12 Volt Lithionics Dual Channel NeverDie
Battery Management System Box is 13" long x 9" wide x 4" tall and weighs approx. 7 pounds.

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Dual Channel BMS is only Available for 12 Volt, 24 Volt and 51 Volt Applications
Call
604-510-0800

NOTE: When connecting an Inverter-Charger with a single set of DC power cables to the Dual Channel BMS, we generally recommend that you connect its positive DC power cable to the Dual Cahnnel BMS box's "LOAD" terminal. This applies to reliable inverter-chargers like Victron, Xantrex and some other good quality brands.

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$2,579.64 USD
for 51 Volt

New Lower Price now includes the BMS box

Click on the graphic for the related full PDF:
Click here to view the Dual Channel BMS box spec sheet

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Dongle Cable
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Customers that wish to take advantage of any of the BMS options such as FCC, remote On/Off switch, Automatic Generator Restart and so on will need to purchase the special 1 foot long "Dongle Cable" that plugs into the top of the battery (when an internal BMS is installed) or plugs into the left side of an external BMS box.

For "Standard" Version 8 BMS we use an 8 pin AMPseal Dongle cable that costs $134.64 USD.

For "Advanced" Version 8 BMS we use a 23 pin AMPseal Dongle cable that costs $159.00 USD if you need to replace or upgrade the Dongle Cable to add more options. For "Advanced" Version 8 BMS the price of the 23 pin AMPseal Dongle Cable is included in the base BMS price.

In addition, add to these prices the individual option prices.

Click for a larger 23 pin Ampseal Numbering Legend spec sheet
Click on the image to see a larger spec sheet showing the 23 pin Ampseal Numbering Legend.

Click for a larger BMS dongle cable image

 

Lithium-ion NeverDie external battery management system box
Click on the image for a larger image showing the 23 pin Dongle plugged in to a 24 Volt Advanced Version 8 Lithionics External BMS box.

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From
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Lithionics Internal Lithium-ion Battery Heater Kits Type 2 for Version 8 external BMS

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Theory of Operation:
The heater kit is a convecting type heating system internal the battery or module that applies and average of 30 Watts per hour (at -4F/-20C continuous ambient temperatures) and is controlled by a thermostat. The thermostat maintains the lithium cell/core to a temperature between 35 and 40 degrees fahrenheit. This permits sub-freezing charging operations.

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Click on the lithium-ion battery heater system pic for a larger image

NOTE: NOT AVAILABLE FOR STANDARD SERIES BATTERIES.

Type 2 Lithium-ion Battery Heater Kit Options:

Note: The Type 1 heater kit option is now discontinued.

Type 2 Available on the Advanced Series or Standard Series BMS
-This version uses a separate solid-state thermostat that is located adjacent to the lithium core and is separate from the BMS thermostat, this there is an upcharge for this version.
-The module (external BMS model) or battery (internal BMS model) will have a 2-pin Delphi Weatherpack connector or "dongle" exiting the case. There are 2 ways to power the thermostat and heater kit:
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lithium batteries spacer2. The Type 2 kit affords the user the ability to turn the battery off, placing it into storage mode, and to use an AC to DC power supply (example attached on the PDF) to bring a simple extension cord from an AC plug and power the thermostat in "storage mode" through the winter season. You may purchase the power supply from Lithionics Battery (click here for the power supply PDF) but if you choose to purchase your own, size it for a 90 Watt surge followed by a 70 Watt continuous output. The heater kit operates 50% duty cycle per hour thus about 30 Watts per hour power consumption net.
Read more in the Lithionics PDF...

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Lithionics Battery ACR

Click on the PDF logo below for the full details on the Lithionics ACR:

Click here to view the Lithionics lithium-ion battery ACR automatic charge realy kit PDF

Click for a larger Iimage of the Lithionics ACR automatic charge relay for alternator charging two battery systems

Below is a functional diagram showing the typical components of a system where ACR is used to bridge Chassis and House batteries.

Click for a larger Iimage of the Lithionics ACR automatic charge relay for alternator charging two battery systems

Lithionics Battery ACR (Automatic Charge Relay) Bluetooth smartphone App screenshot for charging lithium-ion batteries with engine alternators.

Automatic Combiner Relay Controller (ACR) Applications Overview

An Automatic Combiner Relay (ACR) is often used in vehicle applications such as RVs, Work Trucks, Marine vessels, etc. to allow charging separate Chassis and House batteries from common charge sources such as an engine alternator, inverter/charger, solar. In a typical vehicle the chassis battery is reserved for engine starting, while the house battery is used for “hotel” (or house loads) or work-related loads. Normally, when the engine is running, the chassis battery is charging, but when the vehicle is stationary and connected to the power grid, the house battery is charging. Our intelligent ACR allows customers to take advantage of all situations to keep both batteries charged, while keeping them separate when charging is not available or not desirable.

Lithium batteries have an advantage of absorbing as much charge current as possible during the bulk charge stage, which could overheat and potentially damage stock engine alternators, so our intelligent ACR reduces the duty cycle and allows cooling periods. At the same time, a lithium battery requires charge termination when fully charged, so our ACR keeps it disconnected after the charge cycle is completed. Read more in the PDF below...
Click here to view the Lithionics lithium-ion battery ACR automatic charge realy kit PDF

$498.90 USD with Contactor
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Temperature Sensor Extension Cables and "T" Connectors
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In some multi-battery Lithionics lithium-ion battery installations where multiple batteries are connected to a single Version 8 external BMS box, we may need to provide you with the black temperature sensor extension cables and special "T" connectors. These plug in together so that you will have a single black temperature sensor cable going from the battery system to the single temperature sensor input cable assembly on the BMS box.

NOTE: Please remember that with the new UL approvals on the Lithionics Battery products, we want to make sure that the batteries themselves are not exposed to temperatures exceeding 113 Fahrenheit or else the BMS will switch battery power off. This functionality is to ensure that you get the exceptional Battery Cycle Life that our chart shows. Contact Us if you need special cooling systems for the battery compartment or visit our Accessories Page.

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Temperature T-splitter:
$18.50 USD

6 foot temperature extension
cable:
$27.00 USD

or Contact Us for what you need

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Lithionics Battery and Ocean Planet Energy are able to offer communications/ display and programming so that the Lithionics NeverDie Battery Management System can integrate with NMEA 2000 devices/ systems offered by leading ship systems monitoring manufacturers such as MasterVolt (CZone Platform).

We can get a fair amount of the Lithionics data to N2K, by utilizing a Wakespeed WS500 (available through Pinnacle Innovations/ getlithium.com or AP500) together with an OPE-Tether. However, some of the available data on the Lithionics BMS side isn't readable by N2K as the PGNs don't exist. For instance, high cell voltage, low cell voltage, etc.

Luis Soltero at Ocean Planet Energy has written a nice article on NMEA 2000 integration with the popular Wakespeed External Voltage Regulators that we often supply with high output alternators on ships/ RV's. https://panbo.com/how-wakespeeds-ws500-alternator-regulator-solves-complex-charging-issues-a-new-approach/

For a list of PGN descriptions click here.

127508 for example.
Provides parametric data for a specific DC Source, indicated by the instance field. The type of DC Source can be identified from the DC Detailed Status PGN. Used primarily by display or instrumentation devices, but may also be used by power management.

  • Battery Instance
  • Battery Voltage
  • Battery Current
  • Battery Case Temperature
  • Sequence ID

and 127506
Provides parametric data for a specific battery, indicated by the battery instance field. Used primarily by display or instrumentation devices, but may also be used by battery management controls.

  • Sequence ID
  • DC Instance
  • DC Type
  • State of Charge
  • State of Health
  • Time Remaining
  • Ripple
  • Voltage
  • Amp Hours

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Email Us
or Contact Us for what you need and we can come up with a quote.

Please be sure to let us know what makes/ models of equipment that you are working with.

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USB, DB9, 0- 5 Volts/ 3-Bit Register Outputs (Streaming Data)

USB port and cable used with the BD9 New NeverDie System. Measures all functions. Programmed at factory to match battery and voltage of battery.

Measures/ Displays:
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Please order when you order your battery and State of Charge System.
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$210.94 USD
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CANbus:
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CANbus connection option: Limited availabity for INTERNAL NeverDie BMS Batteries and Must be Ordered at Time of Ordering Battery and please inform us if you also need CAN terminators.

Can be used to connect to NCC smart lithium-ion battery chargers or to connect to existing equipment to integrate our SOC functions with your master display system commonly found on yachts and RV's - such as the Silverleaf System.

Measures all functions. Programmed at factory to match battery and voltage of battery. Measures Voltage, Amperage Draw, State of Charge, Amp Hours Remaining, Battery Fuel Gauge and more via CAT5 Ethernet cable connection

Measures/ Displays:
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CANBus Data Interface PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS option PDF

Please order when you order your battery and State of Charge System.
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Now included - just pay for the communication cable that you need.
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CANbus:
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CANbus connection option: Available When Installed with SoC and EXTERNAL Neverdie BMS Batteries. Must be Ordered at Time of Ordering Battery and please inform us if you also need CAN terminators.

Can be used to connect to NCC smart lithium-ion battery chargers or to connect to existing equipment to integrate our SOC functions with your master display system commonly found on yachts and RV's - such as the Silverleaf System. The hardware is installed the BMS box and we can offer you several cable connection options from our 23 pin Ampseal dongle cable so please let us know your cabling connection needs.

Measures all functions. Programmed at factory to match battery and voltage of battery. Measures Voltage, Amperage Draw, State of Charge, Amp Hours Remaining, Battery Fuel Gauge and more via CAT5 Ethernet cable connection

Measures/ Displays:
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Now included - just pay for the communication cable that you need.
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External On/ OFF Switch.
If you plan to mount the BMS box (or one of our internal BMS lithium-ion batteries) in a difficult to reach location where you cannot quickly/ easily access the small round BMS reset/ On/Off buttons, we can provide and external BMS switch with 15 feet or 25 feet of power cabling. This feature has 2 wires coming out of the BMS that are red and white (white) in colour. Price for Internal BMS lithium-ion batteries is $169.42 USD.

This is an On/Off Momentary Switch. Press for 1 second to reset/ turn On system, press/ hold for 5 seconds to soft power down the system.

When the battery is On a 1/2 second push manually turns on the generator at the Automatic Generator Start (AGS) point.

New: When the battery is charging, the illuminated round switch (remote switch or the switch on the battery or BMS box) will flash blue.

Pricing - There Are 3 Options:
1. For our Internal BMS Lithionics lithium-ion batteries it is only available as a non-illuminated (no LED light ring) remote switch for $126.64 USD. Some models may also need the 8 Pin AMPseal connector harness which is sold separately for $134.64 USD. Use Part Number: 75-122-180-KIT.

2. For the Advanced Version 8 External BMS boxes that use the 23 Pin AMPseal connector harness the cost of the illuminated (blue LED light ring) Remote Reset Button option is $134.64 USD for the Remote Button feature that comes with 15 feet of wire. Use Part Number: 75-215B-180.

If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD. You will also need the 23 Pin AMPseal connector harness that costs $159.00 USD.

3. For the Standard Version 8 or Version 9 External BMS boxes the cost of the illuminated (blue LED light ring) remote reset option is $134.64 USD for the remote switch feature that comes with 15 feet of wire. Use Part Number: 75-224-196.

If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.

Click on the BMS switch for a larger image

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Non-
illuminated
(no LED
light ring)
remote
switch for
Internal/
External BMS
batteries is
$126.64 USD.

$169.42 USD
for LED
remote switch for Internal
BMS Battery Systems

$134.64 USD
for LED
remote switch
for External
BMS Box Battery
Systems

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Field Circuit Control to control Alternator -Chargers (formerly called FEC). Important Safety Option - Designed for use with Balmar external Voltage Regulators Only.

This is an important safety feature to control Alternator-Chargers and can be added to any Internal NeverDie BMS for $125.43 USD. This feature can control up to 3 separate alternators. With multiple alternators connected to a single BMS we wire the alternator feed wires to the FCC's 2 wires in parallel. This feature has 2 wires coming out of the BMS that are both violet in colour. This is a Normally Closed (N.C.) Relay - this circuit opens when the High Voltage Cutoff (HVC) condition is detected.

If your BMS is wired to your alternator's field or regulator circuit, it will disable the alternator's output by opening this circuit when HVC condition is detected, to protect the battery from being overcharged. The BMS will open this circuit 500ms prior to opening main contactor, allowing alternator field to collapse which protects the alternator's diodes from potential damage.

Protects the alternator diodes by safely discharging field energy prior to disconnecting the battery. Disables alternator output when battery detects overcharge, in HVC event.

Quote from the Advanced Version 8 BMS Guide PDF:
" Field Control Circuit (FCC) -if your BMS is wired to your alternator's field or regulator circuit, it will disable the alternator's output by opening this circuit when HVC condition is detected, to protect the battery from being overcharged. The BMS will open this circuit 2 seconds prior to opening main contactor, allowing alternator field to discharge which protects the alternator's diodes from potential damage. This circuit can also be used to disable other charge sources, such as solar controllers or inverter/charger's charge function."

As our lithium-ion batteries are "smart batteries" with a High and Low Voltage Cutoff (HVC, LVC), the FCC control circuit works as a relay that interfaces with the alternator Field Effect to tell the alternator to stop charging if our NeverDie Battery Management System is switched off (example: the alternator or Voltage regulator is sending too much Voltage). This is critical as an alternator that is charging with no place to dump the power can burn up. With old technology lead batteries, a faulty alternator will just keep dumping power to a lead battery and ruin the lead battery.

The FCC option is most often used in applications where an Alternator has an external Volatge Regulator. Internally regulated Alternators (such as most OEM automotive alternators) do not require the FCC option. Most of our Marine/ Yacht Customers with special aftermarket Balmar alternators with external or remote mounted Voltage regulators choose the FCC option.

Click on the graphics for FCC wiring diagrams:

12 Volt External Voltage Regulators:

Click here for the Balmar external Voltage regulator manual

More info/ pricing on Balmar external Voltage Regulators shown down the page...

24 Volt External Voltage Regulators:

Click on the image for a larger FCC wiring diagram of the Balmar MC-624 external Voltage Regulator

IMPORTANT INSTALLATION NOTES:
When installing this device on a high performance alternator that uses an external Voltage Regulator like the Balmar MC-614 or MC-624-H and a Perfect Switch POWER-GATE Dual Battery Isolator, we may need to connect the external Voltage Regulator's "Battery +" wire to the engine starting battery's positive post or to the "Main Battery" stud post on the Perfect Switch instead of the "Battery Positive + Post" on the alternator. The reason is that with the Perfect Switch dual isolator installed, the alternator's "Battery Positive + Post" does not have power until the Perfect Switch device is active and as a result the Voltage Regulator may not turn on as desired when cranking the engine. If possible, we recommend bench testing the alternator/ batteries and Perfect Switch system prior to installing on the vehicle. The best way is to follow the Alternator/ external Voltage Regulator's Installation Instructions but if the Regulator does not power up then try using this alternate wiring option of the Regulator's "B+" or "Battery Positive +" wire.
IMPORTANT:
If you have a Balmar External Voltage Regulator connected in the system please advise so that we can program the Perfect Switch device's trigger time to one minute (Balmar regulators have a 35 second delay before they power up).

NOTES:
1. With the new Advanced Version 8 BMS (with Amp23 seal) it comes with the special 1 foot dongle so the cost of the FCC option is $25.84 USD for the FCC feature that comes with 15 feet of wire.
2. With the new Standard Version 8 BMS the cost of the FCC option is: $134.64 USD for the 1 foot special dongle cable plus $25.84 USD for the FCC feature that comes with 15 feet of wire for a total of $160.48 USD. If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.
3. When using multiple islanded independent Lithionics battery banks with their own NeverDie Battery Management System (BMS) AND the FCC option, the FCC wires coming out of the BMS are wired in Series to the alternator(s).
4. If you have more than 1 alternator with external Voltage regulator connected to a Lithionics lithium-ion battery and FCC equipped BMS, we wire the two FCC wires in parallel to the alternators and Voltage regulators.
5. The FCC option can be used to connect to other control devices. The 2 wires from the FCC are a "normally open circuit".

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Serial Data Option

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With the new Advanced Version 8 BMS the cost of the Serial Data option is: $134.64 USD for the 1 foot special dongle cable plus $66.64 USD for the 6 foot serial data cable feature for a total of $201.28 USD.

RS232-UART Serial Data Interface PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS option PDF

NOTE: The RS232-UART Serial Data Interface is no longer available. Choose the Blutooth or RS232 Options.
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$201.28 USD.

NOTE: The RS232-UART Serial Data Interface is no longer available.

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Some customers want to have a visual or auditory signal when the BMS shuts off due to an error/ fault or when the batteries are discharged to the safe point. This two wire option can be connected to a user supplied external device such as an LED warning light or warning buzzer to notify the customer when the BMS shuts off. Be sure to select the correct Voltage specs for your device to match the battery system output Voltage. Price for Internal BMS lithium-ion batteries is $125.42 USD. This feature has 2 wires coming out of the BMS that are red and pink in colour. These output a 12 Volt power and ground when in Alarm mode.

Below are the warning timings for the alarm circuit. The alarm circuit is a normally closed circuit that will open when a BMS fault is detected. The BMS buzzer will also activate. The alarm circuit will activate prior to the BMS contactor opening for the seconds listed below:

  • OptoLoop Event: 5 seconds
  • HVC Event: 20 seconds (High Voltage Cutoff)
  • RVC Event: 20 seconds
  • LVC Event: 20 seconds (Low Voltage Cutoff)
  • Temperature Event: 20 seconds
  • Overcurrent Event: 120 seconds

NOTES:
1. The alarm circuit feature is accessed by 2 wires over the Ampseal harness. The circuit is normally closed, and has a voltage limit of 15V and a current limit of 1A. You can use this to activate an external buzzer or light. However, the output is all-inclusive for any alarm events. The AGSR circuit can be used to activate a low-battery alarm (normally open, 24V 2A rated circuit), but otherwise there is no way to differentiate the events. We recommend having the status code and Bluetooth app available to determine the exact fault condition.

2. With the new Advanced Version 8 BMS (with Amp23 seal) it comes with the 1 foot special dongle cable so the cost of the Alarm Circuit option is: $25.84 USD for the Alarm Circuit feature that comes with 15 feet of wire. If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.

3. With the new Standard Version 8 BMS the cost of the FCC option is: $134.64 USD for the 1 foot special dongle cable plus $25.84 USD for the FCC feature that comes with 15 feet of wire for a total of $160.48 USD. If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.

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Automatic Generator Start/ Restart Circuit. Add price to any External NeverDie BMS. This feature has 2 wires coming out of the BMS that are both blue in colour. This is a N.O. (Never Open) Relay - the N.O. Relay closes when Voltage drops below 3.0 volts per cell or below "Low Fuel" reading on the SOC round display gauge. The circuit Opens when 3.5 Volts per cell is reached after a 15 minute delay. You can manually turn on and off by briefly pushing the BMS Reset Button when the battery is turned on.

Normally Open Dry Contact Relay to signal the generator on/off when battery needs charging. Requires a generator with auto-start function.

Closes when Voltage per cell drops below 3.0 Volts or below "Low Fuel" on SOC display. Circuit Opens when 3.5 Volts per cell is reached after a 15 minute delay. (Manual turn on and off by briefly pushing Reset button on the battery or BMS box for 1/2 second when the battery is On).

Click on the graphic for the Lithionics Battery Management System AGS/R PDF:
Click here to view the Lithionics BMS option PDF

NEW: We can also use the AGS/ R option on many RV applications where the diesel engine alternator cannot be controlled by the FCC function. In this case we can use a Battery-to-Battery Charger such as a Victron Energy Orion-TR-Smart (preferred option - Visit our Victron Energy page here...)

Victron Orion-TR Smart DC to DC battery charger - 360 Watt output for charging lithium-ion batteries

or a Sterling BB1230, BB1260 or BB242435 12 or 24 Volt charger.

Click here for a larger image of the Sterling Power battery to battery DC charger
Click here for a larger image of the Sterling Power battery to battery DC charger
Click here for a larger image of the Sterling Power battery to battery DC charger
Sterling Power BB1230 12 Volt to 12 Volt DC battery to battery charger. 30 Amps output.
Price: $406.64 USD
Sterling Power BB1260 12 Volt to 12 Volt DC battery to battery charger. 60 Amps output.
Price: $542.64 USD
Sterling Power BB242435 24 Volt to 24 Volt DC battery to battery charger. 35 Amps output.

Summary Sterling Power BB1230 12 Volt to 12 Volt DC battery to battery charger "Custom Charge Profile Programming Instructions" for the Lithionics 12 Volt, 315 Amp hour GTX internal BMS battery:

  • Step 1: Connect the Sterling Device to a 12 Volt power source/ battery with appropriate fuse.
  • Step 2: Remove the access cover at the bottom of the charger to expose the two programming buttons. Note: Do not quickly press the selection buttons as they are a bit slow to respond.
  • Step 3: Press and hold down both buttons for between 10 and 20 seconds - we recommend 15 seconds.
  • Step 4: This override all factory settings and allow us to use the "Custom Settings". With the right button press it to move the illuminated LED all the way down to the bottom which is a hard to see faint red LED "Custom" position.
  • Step 5: Press both buttons for 1 second.
  • Step 6: Now we set the bulk/ absorb charge Voltage. Press the right button until the two LEDs labelled 14.6 and 14.2 Volts are illuminated (LEDs #18 and 19). This position indicates our desired Voltage of 14.4 Volts. Press both buttons for 1 second to lock it in.
  • Step 7: Using the right button, navigate to the LED # 20 that says 13.8 Volts. Press both buttons for 1 second. This sets an intermediary float Voltage.
  • Step 8: Use the right button to illuminate the LED # 6 labelled 13.4 Volts. This is the float Voltage that we want. Press both buttons for 1 second to lock it in.
  • Step 9: Now we need to set the minimum absorption time. Use the right button to scroll to LED #4 (LED 22) = 120 minutes. Press both buttons for 1 second to lock it in.
  • Step 10: Now we set the maximum absorption time. Use the right button to select 360 minutes which is LED #8. Press both buttons for 1 second.
  • Step 11: If you like, in this step you can program the low temperature shutoff function of the Sterling Charger. For the Lithionics batteries we suggest that you set this to +3 or +4 Celsius. This will turn off the Sterling Charger in cold and very cold temperatures so that it does not trigger the Lithionics Battery cold temperature intervention that will shut off power to the Lithionics Battery if there is battery charging detected and the battery is at or below 0 Celsius.
  • We are now done and the green LEDs should flash and the device should beep and reboot.
  • NOTE: The buttons are a little tricky to work with so we suggest programming the unit on a workbench and you may have to go through the process a couple times. Click on the PDF logo below for a copy of the instructions.
Click here for a larger image of the LED reference chart
Click here for a larger image of the LED definitions
Click on the PDF logo for a copy of the instructions.
Click here for the charger instructions and wiring diagram

The Sterling Battery to Battery DC Chargers can be "Stacked" or Parallel-Connected to double or triple the charging current - as long as you alternator/ source battery can support this. Visit our Contact Us page to contact us about the Sterling Power chargers and check out the Custom Programming video below:

Click on the link to see the brief setup video for the Sterling chargers...

Click on the link to see the brief setup video for the Sterling chargers...

Previously we had used a MasterVolt Charge Mate current limiting relay but the problem with these type of devices is that they do not offer proper multi-stage charging. Details on how this was used on our old BMS page here...

 

The factory alternator will not float at 13.4 Volts like the lithium wants. Therefore, if you don't use some kind of logic then the factory alternator will maintain too high of Voltage and the BMS will shut off to prevent damage to the battery. (See Page 2 for AMPSEAL Pins and Functions Description. Obtain the mating AMPSEAL connector from Lithionics Battery to activate these functions)

The reprogramming of the Lithionics SOC gauge or Bluetooth App can be done fairly easily. For the Bluetooth App you can change this setting through the Bluetooth app by connecting to the battery, then selecting the settings (gear wheel) in the top right corner. There is then a button for a terminal console session. Click here for the SOC Programming Guide.

Click here to view the Bluetooth SOC Instructions
SOC Programming Guide

Once in the terminal, data will begin streaming. You can then enter the following commands:
AT+SETUP
Then,
AT+LIST
This will show the current settings- you can verify the AGSR setting.
AT+AGSRON = 80

You can then double check the setting has changed by sending the AT+LIST command again.

Once done reviewing the list, send the AT+END command.

You can then retest the Mastervolt ChargeMate to see if it engages once the battery is below 80%.

ADDITIONAL AGS/ R NOTES:
1. With the new Standard Version 8 BMS the cost of the Automatic Generator Restart option is: $134.64 USD for the 1 foot special dongle cable plus $25.84 USD for the Automatic Generator Restart feature that comes with 15 feet of wire for a total of $160.48 USD. If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.
2.
With the new Advanced Version 8 BMS (with Amp23 seal) the special 1 foot dongle is included so the cost of the Automatic Generator Restart option is $25.84 USD for the Automatic Generator Restart feature that comes with 15 feet of wire. If you need 25' of wire add $10.00 USD.
Please Note: For Safety Reasons this option may not be suitable for Marine Applications that have generator cooling systems that rely on sea water or lake water for generator cooling because if the cooling system fails and nobody is onboard the vessel could be flooded.

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$125.42 USD

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Dedicated Power Circuit that will still power critical functions even when the NeverDie is tripped or the battery is switched off. This feature is of particular importance to Marine applications such as Bilge Pumps. In this case, the battery can deliberately be over-discharged and sacrificed to ensure the vessel stays afloat. We can also offer this feature on other batteries to power computers, radios etc. that need constant power. The output of this lead is limited to 50 Amps. This feature can be added to any NeverDie BMS for $262.45 USD.
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  • You will find on our BMS what we call the "Common Cell Loop" wires that are the 16 gauge green wires. These provide the optoelectric communications between each cell in the battery pack(s) and the BMS system. For external BMS systems, these wires are integrated into the Version 8 BMS EURO DIN connector.

  • You will also find on our earlier versions of the BMS what we call the NeverDie Negative Reference Wire. This is a single black wire with a weather-pack connector on one end and a 3/8" hole eyelet cable end on the other end. This is a ground wire and it needs to connect to the negative bus bar that is the common ground in the system that also connects to the negative battery cables. For external BMS systems, this wire is integrated into the Version 8 BMS EURO DIN connector.

  • RS-232 - This is an option for transmitting Serial Data. It is a grey cable to M12 A code connector.

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Lithionics Price:*
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IONGAUGE SOC-STATUS
Round State of Charge Monitoring System (SOC) Fuel Gauge Option

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Multi-Function-Display for the Compact Series (CS200) BMS Battery System ("MFD" Gauge)

Description: a hard-mounted display to provide State of Charge, State of Health and Diagnostic Code data. A single display will connect to 1 or more batteries operating in parallel.

Compatibile with all current Lithionics Battery systems. 24 feet of CANbus connection cable included for 1 BMS connection.

NOTE: The IONGAUGE can be used to monitor two of the below batteries connected in parallel.

GTX12V315A-E2107-CS200

GTX12V320A-E2107-CS200-UL

Full Systems Monitoring - Battery Fuel Gauge, SoC Gauge and Error Reporting. It is necessary to have our full State of Charge System kit to make this gauge work (the Advanced Version 8 Battery Management System). Comes with plug and play cable. Connects in seconds.

Some of the 17 parameters displayed:

  • Graphical and numeric battery "fuel gauge" showing remaining energy/ Amp hours
  • Volts
  • Net Amps being consumed or charged
  • Status codes (used for troubleshooting)
  • Cumulative Amp hours consumed (new) and more...

Click on the Lithionics SOC gauge graphic for a larger image

Click on the Lithionics SOC gauge graphic for a larger image

Click here for a larger image of the ION Gauge wiring diagram
Above Wiring Diagram is for two or more GTX Series Internal BMS Batteries Connected to 1 ION Gauge

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Click on the Lithionics SOC gauge graphic for a larger image

 

Click on the Lithionics SOC gauge graphic for a larger image

 

Click on the Lithionics SOC gauge graphic for a larger image

Gauge outer diameter is 3.77".
Use a 3.40" or 86.46mm holesaw for cutout.

Additional Harnesses Info:

Click here for a larger image of the ION Gauge harness
ION Gauge SOC harness. Part number 75-521-288: $135.90 USD.
NOTE:
This has been discontinued and replaced with a dual CANbus harness that permits 2 CANbus connections - part number 75-523-288 below.

Click here for a larger image of the ION Gauge harness
ION Gauge SOC harness. Part number 75-523-288: $135.90 USD. Use this harness if you need to connect both an ION Gauge and a second CANbus connection.
NOTE:
When connecting 75-521-288 to just one battery you must use the "battery cable #1" and the other battery cable #2 of the harness will not be used and can be coiled up out of the way.

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ION GAUGE
$545.54 USD total which includes the simple 24 foot long harness part number 75-523-288. This combo Gauge/ Harness becomes part number 51-160.
(Price is for 12-24 Volt Systems. Prices are higher for high Voltage Applications.)
NOTE: When connecting 75-521-288 to just one battery you must use the "battery cable #1" and the other battery cable #2 of the harness will not be used.

NOTE: The single CANbus harness part number 75-521-288 has been discontinued and replaced with a dual CANbus harness that permits 2 CANbus connections - part number 75-523-288.

Optional Networking and Monitoring: Lithionics M12 + to M12 - DeviceNet (RVC) adater cable for networking Lithionics BMS to RVC CANbus. Part Number: 75-524-18
$76.16 USD

Weatherpak Female to DeviceNet drop adapter cable for IONGAUGE. Part Number: 75-219W-36
$59.84 USD

Lithionics PDFs for the ION Gauge:
Click here to view the Lithionics IONGAUGE SOC PDF

Click here to view the Lithionics IONGAUGE SOC PDF

 

Contact us for a PDF that shows multiple CANbus connection wiring diagrams. Example: connecting the ION Gauge and Wakespeed WS500 alternator external Voltage regulator. (available through Pinnacle Innovations/ getlithium.com)

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Bluetooth State of Charge (SOC) Monitoring System

 

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Full Systems Monitoring - Battery Fuel Gauge, SOC Gauge and Error Reporting. Shows:

  • Battery Voltage
  • Net Amps Charging or Discharging
  • Battery Temperature
  • Amp Hour Capacity Remaining
  • Graphical Fuel Gauge
  • % SOC figure
  • Cumulative Amp hours consumed (new) and more...

It is necessary to have the Advanced Version 8 Battery Management System (BMS). Offered as an option for internal or external BMS Box Lithionics Battery Systems.

This option is available for all Lithionics Batteries with built-in Advanced Version 8 BMS as well as the low cost 125 Amp hour AGM Replacement Battery (we can also offer it some of the small/ mid-size 12 Volt batteries such as the 75, 110, 150 and 195 Amp hour lithium-ion batteries).

IMPORTANT NOTE:
The “Firmware Update” feature is also located in the Settings menu. Firmware update option is not available on older battery models.

NOTE: The firmware update should only be performed if necessary. As such, unless the APP prompts you to update the Firmware or you are experiencing a problem that you have discussed with Pinnacle Innovations, we do not recommend that update the Firmware.

Works with both Android and iPhone Smartphones. Bluetooth range varies depending on battery system location but is typically 50 to 60 feet.

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Lithionics Bluetooth State of Charge App for Android and iPhone Smartphones

Lithionics Bluetooth State of Charge App for Android and iPhone Smartphones

Ambient power draw is 10 milliamps.

Please take this into account when storing your battery as this could deplete a fully charged 100 Amp hour battery in about 400 Days.

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$174.44 USD for the Bluetooth circuit board.

NOTE: This option must be ordered with your battery or BMS system.

The downloadable APP is Free at the Apple Store - Search for Lithionics Battery Apps

Click here for the Free download APP at the Google Play site

Click on the PDF logo below for the Bluetooth SOC guide/ programming instructions.

Click here to view the Bluetooth SOC Instructions

NOTE: The Bluetooth circuit board can be added to some existing BMS boxes at the Lithionics factory. Please add $199.00 USD for this service in addition to the $174.44 USD cost for the circuit board.

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Questions? Call Us at 604-510-0800
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Lithionics lithium-ion battery and NeverDie Battery Management System DIN connector and Anderson connector systems
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Lithionics Advanced BMS Included Features

  • OptoLoop interface. A uniquely designed continuous opto-isolated loop circuit running through each battery cell's voltage monitor. OptoLoop alerts the BMS if any single cell is outside of the acceptable voltage range.
  • Power/Storage Mode Switch. Shuts off battery power in Storage Mode, provides additional safety and compliance with US/DOT regulations for shipping batteries.
  • 200A Contactor. Zero coil energy consumption compared to classic relays which consume over 2 Watts of power continuously.
  • Reset/On/Off button (multifunctional). Intelligent control of multiple functions, see more details in Product Manual sections below.
  • Coulomb Counter based SOC meter. Precision SOC measurements using Hall Effect sensor and Coulomb Counter to integrate charge/discharge current over time.
  • Reserve Voltage Cutoff (RVC). NeverDie function - 10% energy reserve when you need it most. Configurable reserve level based on true SOC value.
  • Low and High Voltage Cutoff (LVC/HVC). Pack level and Cell level battery protection from over-charge and over-discharge.
  • External Temperature Sensor. Factory installed temperature sensor inside the battery module to report actual battery core temperature to the BMS, which can disconnect the battery power in extreme temperature conditions, to prevent battery damage due to overheating or freezing.
  • Field Control Circuit (FCC). Protects the alternator diodes by safely discharging field energy prior to disconnecting the battery. Disables alternator output when battery detects overcharge, in HVC event.
  • Automatic Charger Detection. Senses voltage on the load side of the BMS when charge source is present and turns the battery on for charging.
  • Short Circuit Detection. Disconnects the battery when a short circuit is detected.
  • TVS Flyback Diode. Protects the BMS from inductive kickback at the load side when the contactor is open.
  • Sealed NEMA Enclosure. The BMS is housed in a sealed NEMA box for convenient placement near the battery modules.
  • VTE Power Posts. Heavy duty terminal posts for the battery and load connections.
  • Deep Sleep Mode. Zero BMS idle load on fully discharged battery.

Optional Features (see pricing above)

  • Automatic Generator Start/Restart (AGS/R). Normally Open dry contacts to signal the generator on/off when battery needs charging. Requires a generator with auto-start function.
  • Alarm Signal Circuit. Sends an audible or visual alarm signal to get attention when the BMS detects a problem with the battery modules.
  • 400A Contactor. Double the current rating for higher power systems.
  • Dual Contactor. Separate Charge and Load busses for more complex systems.
  • EURO DIN Advanced connectors. Improves connection safety by eliminating terminal posts and integrates OptoLoop connections. Truly Plug and Play battery connections.
  • Pre-charge Relay circuit. Pre-charges capacitive loads such as inverters or motor controllers to protect the BMS contactor from welding during inrush transient.
  • NCC Charger control. Controls NCC Chargers over CANBus interface (chargers sold separately).
  • AC power sense for Charge Detection. Enables charging when AC power is present, but charger must sense the battery to start charging.
  • Remote Reset/On/Off button. Wiring harness with Reset button for remote battery operations.
  • Round LCD pod. Round 2" LCD display for panel mount, shows all available battery data such as SOC, Volts, Amps, Watts, etc.
  • Tri-Color LED pod. Used for simple state of charge indication: Green/Yellow/Red.
  • CANBus Data interface. Connector for CANBus Data Logging.
  • Serial Data interface. Connector for UART Serial Interface. Supports conversion to USB or RS232 with separate dongle/adapter for data logging and BMS configuration.
  • TCP/IP Data interface. Ethernet network interface for TCP/IP data logging and configuration.
  • DAP (Drive Away Protection). An extra safety feature for propulsion applications which prevents moving while charging.
  • Bilge Pump Terminal. A separate dedicated contactor for a bilge pump with energy reserve to run the pump when other loads are turned off.

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Custom Features

  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, RS485/Modbus interface, etc. Custom data interfaces and other unique features can be developed for customers with unique requirements. Development / Engineering costs will apply. Contact us for details.
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NOTE: Please discuss with getlithium.com/ Pinnacle Innovations the expected temperature extremes that your Lithionics lithium-ion batteries will be exposed to as there are acceptable limits that we need to work within. In most cases we can offer either a manual or automated heating or cooling system to permit your system to work in all conditions.

WHAT IS A BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHAT DOES IT DO AND HOW DO I ORDER IT?
Answers:
The Lithionics Battery Management System is necessary for lithium ion batteries. It is a specially programmed computer and electronics that ensure safe, reliable and optimal performance of your lithium ion battery. Lithium ion battery packs are sophisticated, high tech electronic power modules that need to have the individual cells balanced, charging and discharging functions controlled, temperatures monitored and many other critical functions controlled.

Lithionics Battery Management System is called NEVERDIE. The NEVERDIE Battery Management System (also called BMS) can be fully customized to meet your needs and demands from your lithium ion battery.

Typically, the NEVERDIE Battery Management System can be ordered 2 ways:
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As an integrated, internal component for the battery (typically used for single battery systems) or
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As an external component for your battery (typically used for multi-battery systems).

Also, the NEVERDIE Battery Management System can be ordered for the correct Voltage of your battery (12 Volts, 24 Volts, 36 Volts, 48 Volts, 72 Volts and any Voltage in a multiple of 12) as well as the required total continuous Amperage you need to draw from the battery (80 Amps, 100 Amps, 200 Amps, 400 Amps, 550 Amps and higher). Please Note: Our Lithionics batteries that have an "M" style internal NeverDie BMS such as "4M, 6M or 8M" are a simpler BMS than the external NeverDie BMS boxes and only have the "Low Voltage Cutoff" (LVC) and do not have the High Voltage Cutoff (HVC) protection. This is important to keep in mind when selecting a battery model. The batteries equipped with the internal NeverDie "M style BMS" should really only be used in applications such as automotive engine starting that uses an internally regulated alternator for charging. If you application has other methods of charging such as solar, generators and auxilary chargers, we always recommend the more advanced "CTRL200, CTRL400 or CTRL550 NeverDie BMS" as they give added protection against overcharging with too high a Voltage.

Last, the NEVERDIE Battery Management System can be ordered with custom features to meet specific needs or for complex battery installations where battery recharging can be done with a vehicle alternator, a generator, solar power, a secondary charger (inverter/ converter) or any combinations of these.

We are here to help you take the guesswork out of getting you the right battery management system that will serve your current needs, as well as address your future battery power needs. Call us at 604-510-0800 or email us at siteinfo@shaw.ca and let us answer your questions and get you the right system.

Important NeverDie Battery Management System (BMS)
User Guides and Resources
Lithionics Advanced NeverDie BMS/ SOC
Error Code Definitions
- Contains Macros that must be enabled
Click here to view the Battery Management System Error Code Calculator
Click here to view the Battery Storage System Guide
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Click here to view the Battery Management System User Guide
Lithionics GT Series UL
Installation Manual
Click here to view the UL Installation Guide
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Lithionics NeverDie BMS/ SOC
Advanced Series User Guide
Version 7
Click here to view the Battery Management System User Guide
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Click here to view the NeverDie BMS troubleshooting Guide
Click here to view the Advanced Lithionics NeverDie BMS Guide

IMPORTANT NEVERDIE BMS NOTES:
1. The Lithionics Advanced Battery Management System incorporates "Battery Temperature Monitoring" that can shut off battery power in Extreme Cold or Extreme Hot conditions to ensure that charging does not occur except within the UL listed parameters. The reason is simple: operating within the optimal temperature ranges ensures you that can achieve the extremely high cycle life that the Lithionics batteries offer. This system also interfaces with the State of Charge Monitoring Kit (SOC). As such, for recharging of the battery, we want to make sure the battery is above 0 Celsius or 32 Fahrenheit (we can still discharge at -20 Celsius) or below 113 Fahrenheit (we can discharge up to 140 Fahrenheit). Worth noting is that when the temperatures fall back within the parameters, the system automatically re-latches. We have several ways that we can automatically keep the battery system at optimal temperatures for full operation at all times (charging and discharging) so this is an important subject to discuss with getlithium.com/ Pinnacle Innovations. Lithionics can provide an internal heating system for the batteries that turns on/ off automatically for $519.90 USD for mid and large size batteries (150 Amp hours and higher) and $389.00 USD for select smaller battery models. getlithium.com/ Pinnacle Innovations also offers an external 12 Volt DC 100 Watt heating system or cooling system from $120.00 CAD that is suitable for battery and BMS installations in a sealed or semi-sealed battery compartment.

In addition, if our automated heating or cooling features are not possible, then it is advisable to opt for the "Dual Channel BMS option" (see details below) that separates the charge and discharge functions of the system. With Dual Channel, even if the battery temperature is outside the recommended temperatures of 32 to 113 Fahrenheit we can let the "Charge Path" on the BMS shut off to prevent charging but the "Discharge Path" remains open and functional so you can power your AC and DC loads. The Dual Channel option is always recommended for Marine Systems (added lightning protection/ redundancy) but it is also highly recommended for battery systems using solar power (susceptible to Voltage spikes that can trigger the BMS High Voltage Cutoff) and now for battery systems exposed to temperature extremes. Please consult with getlithium.com/ Pinnacle Innovations to ensure that we specify the correct system for you that will perform in the conditions that you need.

2. The Lithionics NeverDie Battery Management Systems and State of Charge Battery Meter/ Monitor Kits consume a small amount of power as follows:
A.) The "Pushbutton NeverDie System" has a continuous Amperage draw of 2 Milliamps.

The LARGER Lithionics Batteries such as the one listed on this page are capable of safely being stored after they are fully charged for longer periods - as much as a year or longer.

Please be sure to ask about the intervals at which your battery should be recharged at time of ordering.

If your application also has a small "Parasitic Drain" (monitoring devices, clock, alarm system etc.), this must also be factored in and the battery charged in accordance with the total amperage draw.

C.) Lithionics State of Charge Battery Meter/ Monitor Kits:
Digital Display Power Consumption
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Display turned "ON" = .75 Watts

Some useful Resource Information is shown below and if you scroll down the page, you will see some of our Battery Management System Products listed...

lithium battery spacer LITHIUM-ION BATTERY NEWS:
12 volt 24 volt 36 volt 48 volt lithium ion battery spacerLithionics Battery becomes the first lithium-ion battery manufacturer in the World to receive the prestigious UL1973 Listed designation on their selected 12 and 24 Volt lithium-ion batteries.

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Lithionics Battery becomes the first lithium-ion battery manufacturer in the World to receive the prestigious UL1973 Stationary AND Motive test designations at 12 Volts, 24 Volts, 48 Volts and 51 Volts for their select GT Series lithium-ion battery models:
lithium battery spacerGT12V450A-F24-CTRL300, GT12V600A-F24-CTRL300,
lithium battery spacerGT24V300A-F24-CTRL300, GT48V150A-F24-CTRL300,
lithium battery spacerGT51V-150A-F24-CTRL300, GT12V600A-F27,
lithium battery spacerGT24V300A-F27, GT48V150A-F27 and GT51V150A-F27.

Motive UL designation adds shock, crush, vibration, drop and other hazards to the designation.
12 volt 24 volt 36 volt 48 volt lithium ion battery spacer In addition, Lithionics Battery's Advanced NeverDie Battery Management System (BMS) as well as the MiniBMS with software Version 3.UL has been tested and approved as per UL508, UL991 and UL1998 on select systems.
12 volt 24 volt 36 volt 48 volt lithium ion battery spacer RESULT: Lithionics Battery continues to be an industry leader in compliance, safety and performance for their lithium-ion battery systems and NeverDie Battery Management Systems (BMS).

BMS OPTIONS:

Lithionics Battery has a whole lineup of advanced NeverDie Battery Management Systems (also called "BMS") and Options. We offer our NeverDie BMS in many power levels:

  • 100 Amps Continuous Power (called "6M" or "100CS")
  • 120 Amps Continuous Power (called "8M")
  • 200 Amps Continuous Power (called "CS200")
  • 300 to 400 Amps Continuous Power (called "CTRL400")
  • 550 Amps Continuous Power (called "CTRL550"). Note: not yet developed for Version 8 BMS release.
  • 1,000 Amps Continuous Power (called "CTRL1000"). Note: not yet developed for Version 8 BMS release/ Only available for advanced users.

A few key features/ options offered are shown above.

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Version 8 Heavy Duty External BMS/ 24 Volts:
400 Amps Continuous Draw
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Version 8 External BMS (2018):
With EURO DIN connectors
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Lithium-ion NeverDie external battery management system box - Version 8
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Lithium-ion NeverDie external battery management system box
Lithionics 12 Volt Lithium ion battery system (350 Amp hour battery) with 400 Amp continuous discharge external NeverDie Battery Management System box (Version 7).
 
Lithium-ion NeverDie external State of Charge Computer Controller box

Shown here is the Version 7 Lithionics external BMS/ SoC box that goes inline on the positive battery cable to monitor battery functions, display a battery "fuel level" reading, show the net Amp draw/ charge and other functions. Details...
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Version 7 Heavy Duty External BMS:
400 Amps Continuous Draw

Lithium-ion NeverDie external battery management system box

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Below is a Corporate RV Tour Bus we worked on with Lithionics Batteries,
24 Volt Lithionics BMS and a Elcon PFC Series 24V Lithium ion Battery Charger.

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lithium batteries spacerNEVERDIE BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS RESOURCES:
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Dual Channel BMS
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NOTE: The Dual Channel BMS is no longer 2 separate electric boxes.

 

Dual Channel BMS

The photo below shows a modern Version 8 Dual-Channel BMS Box:
Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...

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Lithionics also offers a feature for our Dual Channel NeverDie BMS
for Solar Systems: As a part of the High Voltage Cutoff, the BMS can sense when the solar panels are not outputting any power (when it is night) and prevent the MPPT solar charge controller from draining power from your Lithionics lithium-ion battery. The Dual Channel BMS fits into a single box (as shown below with integrated State of Charge Monitor sender built-in and accessory SOC gauge).
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Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...


Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...


Dimensions of this 12 Volt Lithionics Dual Channel NeverDie
Battery Management System Box is 13" long x 9" wide x 4" tall and weighs approx. 7 pounds.

300 or 350 Amp 12 Volt Dual Channel Battery Management System.

Lithionics Battery Dual Channel Battery Management System box for Solar Power Systems with High and Low Voltage cutoff protections as well as special Voltage sensors to prevent MPPT Solar Charge Controllers from draining battery power when there is no solar output. Click for larger image...
Dimensions of this 12 Volt Lithionics Dual Channel NeverDie Battery Management System Box is 13" long x 9" wide x 4" tall and weighs approx. 7 pounds.

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12 Volt External Voltage Regulators:

We often use the Balmar External Voltage Regulators with high output alternators that we can tie in to the NeverDie BMS option called FCC (Field Circuit Control). Click on the images to see the Balmar instruction manual. Please consult us about what Voltage it should be set at as alternators output higher Voltages when cold.

Click here for the Balmar external Voltage regulator manual

MC-614 Manual

On newer Balmar External Voltage Regulators, they do have a "Lithium-ion Battery" charge setting, which is acceptable for the Lithionics lithium-ion batteries.

Balmar suggest setting the alternator temperature to 90 degrees Fahrenheit.

 

$689.87 CAD*
(includes harness)

Click here for the Balmar external Voltage regulator manual
Click on the images for a larger images of the Balmar MC-614H external Voltage Regulator
Balmar MC-614 voltage regulator wiring layout
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$792.90 CAD*
(harness included)

Balmar 24 Volt external alternator Voltage Regulator kit

Click on the image for a larger FCC wiring diagram of the Balmar MC-624 external Voltage Regulator


Click on the images for a larger FCC wiring diagram of the Balmar MC-624 external Voltage Regulator

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Centerfielder II Dual Alternator Charge Balancer

The Centerfielder II balances twin-engine charging systems by monitoring port and starboard voltage regulators. When both alternators and voltage regulators are working, the Centerfielder II automatically splits field output from the dominant regulator to both alternators, making it possible to charge a single house battery bank with the combined output of both alternators. Use only with BALMAR Max Charge MC-612, MC-614, or MC-624 Voltage regulators. Do not install in systems utilizing internally regulated alternators.

  • Balances charging in twin engine applications
  • Works in 12 and 24 Volt applications
  • Isolates alternators and regulators when only one engine is running
  • Provides field current from a single regulator to both port and starboard alternators when both engines are in operation
  • Fused 12 ga. power wires (2) w/15A ATC fuse included
$461.90 CAD*

Balmar CenterFielder II 12 Volt/ 24 Volt dual alternator balancer
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Click here for the full Marine Hybrid Magazine article on Lithium ion batteries

Click here to read this great article explaining Lithionics Battery Management Systems, NeverDie Low and High Voltage Cut-off (LVC, HVC), dedicated bilge pump power (critical for Marine Applications), Dual-Channel Battery Management (separate Charge/ Discharge) and more!
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Lithionics Advanced Series NeverDie Battery Management System box (BMS) with State of Charge Kit sending unit built-in and plug and play EURO DIN connectors
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NOTES:
* All Prices Subject to Change. Shipping/ Freight is extra.
"SOC" means State of Charge
"Wh" means Watt Hours
"Ahr" means Amp Hours.
Note: 1 Lithium ion AHr = 2 Lead Acid AHr (@12 Volts), 2.5 Lead Acid AHr (@24 Volts), 3.5 Lead Acid AHr (@48 Volts)

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